I love it when my oldest tells me “all the kids at school cuss” but she doesn’t. Does she think I was born yesterday?
I love the James Bond idea. That is very cool!
I love the WWJD; too cool. Since my kids don’t know who he is, I don’t think it would work, though, LOL. As the mother of mostly boys, I relate-all I can do at this point is hope they don’t fart in church or swear at the cashier in the grocery store. Which, of course, mean I have to be a better example that I currently am. One of the BEST things? Having your kids truly believe that you have superpowers. We live in a small town. People tattle on my kids. My kids think I am like God, all knowing. It works.
I remember that moment when I discovered my teenager cussed around his friends. Minor words. Really didn’t bother me when I realized he NEVER did it in front of me. I thought of it as respect. He still respects me and he is 20, though I wish I could say the same of me. I am a sailor though I have toned down the past few years.
It’s the whole do as I say not as I do theory I suppose, oh well it worked for me! :)
My kids curse. Recently, Jason asked Bella how his sexy was [ he says proactive preserves his sexy]. She said ‘Your sexy is perfect, but you’re an asshole.’
She listens to me fuss about him on the phone too much I’d guess. :)
Told both my kids how I feel about swearing (that an intellegent person can wither someone with a well-chosen word, and not have to resort to cussing), and knew how they talked around their friends. They just better not swear in front of me – dangit!
Ha–I love the What Would James Bond Do? What a clever way to get kids to think about that.
I loved this post and will tell you I”m now in the next phase of this. I have teens, and amazingly my teens have been cuss-free as far as I know, despite my own guttermouth (I am totally a stress-cusser). But all of a sudden, my 16-y/o has decided that in chitchat conversation w/ me, she can use the language. And I find myself in a quandary–I don’t want to cut her off when she’s confiding in me, opening up when teens so rarely open up, but I also wouldn’t mind reminding her that she doesn’t have to emulate her dear old mom quite so handily…
I think in our house for now it will be WWBD. (What would the Backyardigans do? They don’t curse either. And they always have on excellent, appropriate outfits.)
Your response to this particular incident? Also excellent. Just the right amount of reaction to be “fear and self-censure inducing” — and that’s what you want really.
(Also, just want to be sure you know I made good on my promise and wrote you a little novel on your career options post…)
This is so awesome. Since we live in what used to be a cornfield and not your wonderful, mountain-Y, wood-SY, ocean-Y Vancouver (I do SO LOVE Vancouver), I will have to get that eavesdropping spy kit to hear what my kids are up to.
All mothers have bionic hearing powers! When I was a kid, my mother could pull out my voice from blocks away and fling a wooden spoon like a boomerang to smack me up side the head whenever she heard me swearing…really, I’ve got the scars to prove it. I always knew that she would find out when I did something wrong, no matter how small. At times, it motivated me to behave better, but I didn’t fully appreciate it until later in life. You’re doing the right things, and your kids will appreciate it later too. The swearing thing is hard for me to enforce, though, as it’s one vice that I have a hard time controlling in myself at times. -Jeremy @ Discovering Dad
Nice way to bust them without humiliation, but I agree that they could have been using *much* more colorful words.
Not being a parental figure, I’m not going to advise what words to use or when to use them, but if you’re of the mind to teach them how to curse…might I suggest helping them tap into their pale Irish roots and have them watch “The Commitments.” 113 minutes long and the word, “fuck” is used 145 times. It’s all in the accent.
Or you could change philosophies to “What Would John(McClane) Do?” and then watch as they kill terrorists, spouting nifty one liners and the ever popular, “Yippie-ki-yay…”
I’m fairly certain that Harley doesn’t have a clue who James Bond is. I’ll ask him at breakfast. Very clever and amusing. Now the boys will think you have super human hearing. Very smart.
Swearing is becoming a routine dinner topic with never-ending questions about why so many kids cuss all the time and what do those words mean.
Our rule in the house is that grown-up words are for grown-ups. Wanna cuss? Fine. That also means that you wanna mow the lawn and pay some rent and do some dishes and caulk some bathrooms…
My son, my oldest child, is 15. He’s a freshman in high school this year. A couple of months ago, he casually asked me, “Mom, would you be mad if you found out that I curse around my friends?” To which I said, “I already know that you do.” He was shocked, wanted to know how I knew…….I just smiled. Sometimes Moms just know, ya know? I told him just don’t curse in front of me. I still don’t curse in front of my mom and I am 34. It’s a respect thing.
I will never forget when my daughter lost a game of Chutes and Ladders and declared, “F*CK”. She was three. Thank goodness her vocabulary has improved since then. I’m doubting that would fly in her Catholic school and all.
Yea, that one’s a toughie. You handled it really well, though. All we can do is raise them right and hope they continue to act half-way decent when we aren’t around!
Question for Mr. Lady – do you cuss when your kids aren’t around? Ever? Because I bet you do… Back when I was a parent dealing with young kids (they were 7 and 9 when the came to live with me, probably not much older than that for this memory) we realized that we cuss a lot. Our social circle cusses CONSTANTLY. I know a child who thought my brother’s name was “Uncle Nate Fuckhead” when he was two because, seriously, that’s what everyone called him. So we had lots of conversations about the appropriateness of cussing. Things like what you don’t say in front of your grandmother (or mother). Everything we talked about was how *we* adults did it – yes we cuss, and we cuss more around certain people, and we never ever ever cuss in front of their grandmother. There was one incident which required a minor intervention and also a couple times when cussing was overused in our vicious UNO games, but that’s it. They both grew up knowing how and when to cuss. Just like adults.
Funny side story: shortly after the first cussing conversation, Loyal got the kids to some class late and the door was locked. He said, “See? This is a time when saying “shit” is appropriate.”
You handled it brilliantly – *sigh* but how do you do it when they are almost 15yrs, bigger and stronger than you and they don’t care anymore if they say it in front of you.
Hey-hey you! You live next door to me or sumthin’? Your descrip of your deck and the unseen below camo’d by trees/woodland creatures and the such sounds eerily like my house…..do I know you?
Super ‘Mom’ Hearing you must have! My son seems to think I am ‘all knowing and all seeing’, which of course I am. He gets into something I know he shouldn’t, I call out and he comes back, “Mom, how did you know?”
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amy
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 8:46I love it when my oldest tells me “all the kids at school cuss” but she doesn’t. Does she think I was born yesterday?
I love the James Bond idea. That is very cool!
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Katherine
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 9:05Good call. The swearing I can handle. And What Would James Do? Much better.
ohmommy
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 9:06Oh… I get it now…. what would James Bond do. You have said that before w/o explaining it.
OMG. I love it, it is brilliant. I am adopting it. I hope I can develop supernatural qualities such as those you have. You are one heck of a mother.
When I grow up I want to be just like you.
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April
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 9:21James Bond would be proud!
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Betsy Bird
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 9:39“What would James Bond do?”…. why didn’t I think of that?!? Love it!
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Ashley Sanders
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 9:45Love the What would james do. Awesome. Maybe I’ll use that someday…(right now she only screams at us – she’s almost 1).
Okay…so you need to give me the lowdown on ages one to 3. We’re already entering tantrums and testing mommy.
Quite simply…how do I not kill her and remain sane?
Whiskey?
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Tammy
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 9:58Love the James Bond move…I’ll have to give that one a try as I have a tween of my own who seems to be trying to push the boundaries a litte.
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Loralee
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 10:02My children are convinced that I know EVERYTHING.
I want to keep it that way for as long as possible.
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Kori
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 10:02I love the WWJD; too cool. Since my kids don’t know who he is, I don’t think it would work, though, LOL. As the mother of mostly boys, I relate-all I can do at this point is hope they don’t fart in church or swear at the cashier in the grocery store. Which, of course, mean I have to be a better example that I currently am. One of the BEST things? Having your kids truly believe that you have superpowers. We live in a small town. People tattle on my kids. My kids think I am like God, all knowing. It works.
Kori’s last blog post..My Own 7 Things
Mary Boston
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 11:22Love it! what would james bond do!
What a great way to handle it too! You’re not a push over, but still in control. Brilliant
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Kay
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 11:23I remember that moment when I discovered my teenager cussed around his friends. Minor words. Really didn’t bother me when I realized he NEVER did it in front of me. I thought of it as respect. He still respects me and he is 20, though I wish I could say the same of me. I am a sailor though I have toned down the past few years.
It’s the whole do as I say not as I do theory I suppose, oh well it worked for me! :)
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Maria
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 11:38My kids curse. Recently, Jason asked Bella how his sexy was [ he says proactive preserves his sexy]. She said ‘Your sexy is perfect, but you’re an asshole.’
She listens to me fuss about him on the phone too much I’d guess. :)
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Don Mills Diva
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 12:05Damn and hell? That sounds positively sweet compared to what I have heard around the playground from VERY young kids…
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Jen
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 12:40snicker! He’s so busted!
I’ve worked daycare before–his words are tame. Some 5 year olds could blister paint with their language.
I’m going to use this James Bond thing….too bad Sean Connery slapped women in the early ones!
Tara R.
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 12:59Told both my kids how I feel about swearing (that an intellegent person can wither someone with a well-chosen word, and not have to resort to cussing), and knew how they talked around their friends. They just better not swear in front of me – dangit!
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BusyDad
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 13:11I still to this day do not cuss in front of my mom. I knew she named me James for a reason.
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Kat
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 13:31I just LOVE your website so much…you are like my long lost twin I never knew about…keep up the great material!
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Xbox4NappyRash
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 13:39Like BusyDad, I never swear in front of my family, siblings or Dad that is.
I never swore at all until the day my mother was taken to hospital.
She never came out, and I never stopped.
So ‘the moral of the story is’ they are gonna do it when you’re not around, but keep a hand on them when you are.
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jenny gardiner
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 14:07Ha–I love the What Would James Bond Do? What a clever way to get kids to think about that.
I loved this post and will tell you I”m now in the next phase of this. I have teens, and amazingly my teens have been cuss-free as far as I know, despite my own guttermouth (I am totally a stress-cusser). But all of a sudden, my 16-y/o has decided that in chitchat conversation w/ me, she can use the language. And I find myself in a quandary–I don’t want to cut her off when she’s confiding in me, opening up when teens so rarely open up, but I also wouldn’t mind reminding her that she doesn’t have to emulate her dear old mom quite so handily…
MommyTime
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 14:17The James Bond thing? Brilliant.
I think in our house for now it will be WWBD. (What would the Backyardigans do? They don’t curse either. And they always have on excellent, appropriate outfits.)
Your response to this particular incident? Also excellent. Just the right amount of reaction to be “fear and self-censure inducing” — and that’s what you want really.
(Also, just want to be sure you know I made good on my promise and wrote you a little novel on your career options post…)
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Sandy (Momisodes)
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 14:18Love how you said just enough to keep them on their toes from now on. Good call!
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CableGirl
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 14:20Hahaha. What Would James Bond do. Awesome. I suppose if you’ve got to get a boy to be cool, what better model. lol
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Angie
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 15:08This is so awesome. Since we live in what used to be a cornfield and not your wonderful, mountain-Y, wood-SY, ocean-Y Vancouver (I do SO LOVE Vancouver), I will have to get that eavesdropping spy kit to hear what my kids are up to.
KEEP BELIEVING
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Jeremy Neal
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 16:24All mothers have bionic hearing powers! When I was a kid, my mother could pull out my voice from blocks away and fling a wooden spoon like a boomerang to smack me up side the head whenever she heard me swearing…really, I’ve got the scars to prove it. I always knew that she would find out when I did something wrong, no matter how small. At times, it motivated me to behave better, but I didn’t fully appreciate it until later in life. You’re doing the right things, and your kids will appreciate it later too. The swearing thing is hard for me to enforce, though, as it’s one vice that I have a hard time controlling in myself at times. -Jeremy @ Discovering Dad
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Latte Mommy
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 16:39Kudos. Perfectly handled, but I wouldn’t really expect less from you. Or James Bond, for that matter.
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the planet of janet
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 16:42seriously… you’re concerned about damn and hell? i get bent about more creative language, but those? those i have let slide for years.
sigh. i guess i just should go stand in the crappy mommy corner.
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andy
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 16:46they have eaten my apple slices and drank my Gatorade and bowled on my Wii
Maybe it’s just me, but I’m mildy excited just reading that.
OK, yeah, it’s just me.
But you should know me by now.
Don’t make me break out the Harold Melvin (and, no, that’s not as dirty as it sounds either. OK, fine, it sounds dirty to me).
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Karen MEG (pomtini)
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 18:48I think you handled it just perfectly. You’re such a cool mom.
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Mas Younon
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 18:54Nice way to bust them without humiliation, but I agree that they could have been using *much* more colorful words.
Not being a parental figure, I’m not going to advise what words to use or when to use them, but if you’re of the mind to teach them how to curse…might I suggest helping them tap into their pale Irish roots and have them watch “The Commitments.” 113 minutes long and the word, “fuck” is used 145 times. It’s all in the accent.
Or you could change philosophies to “What Would John(McClane) Do?” and then watch as they kill terrorists, spouting nifty one liners and the ever popular, “Yippie-ki-yay…”
Mas Younon’s last blog post..For the American People
Secret Agent Mama
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 19:51Wow. The James Bond Card. I dig. I dig.
You are a brilliant woman. Hot enough to be Bond girl, too, ya know.
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Leslie Dillinger
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 20:26Well met, Mr. Lady. But you know they’re going to end up with potty mouths at some point with you and The Donor at the helm. I’m just sayin’;)
Diane
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 20:28I’m fairly certain that Harley doesn’t have a clue who James Bond is. I’ll ask him at breakfast. Very clever and amusing. Now the boys will think you have super human hearing. Very smart.
Swearing is becoming a routine dinner topic with never-ending questions about why so many kids cuss all the time and what do those words mean.
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Nathan
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 21:23Yanno, Hell, Damn, Crap, and Shit…and even Fuck…really aren’t as “hard” as they used to be.
Have we become a profane society?
Perhaps.
I think it more likely we have shifted our perceptions of what is unacceptable to say in front of children and ladies.
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Judith Shakespeare
Thursday, 3 April, 2008 at 22:39Dude, AWESOME POST.
Our rule in the house is that grown-up words are for grown-ups. Wanna cuss? Fine. That also means that you wanna mow the lawn and pay some rent and do some dishes and caulk some bathrooms…
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cyndy
Friday, 4 April, 2008 at 1:10My son, my oldest child, is 15. He’s a freshman in high school this year. A couple of months ago, he casually asked me, “Mom, would you be mad if you found out that I curse around my friends?” To which I said, “I already know that you do.” He was shocked, wanted to know how I knew…….I just smiled. Sometimes Moms just know, ya know? I told him just don’t curse in front of me. I still don’t curse in front of my mom and I am 34. It’s a respect thing.
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Momo Fali
Friday, 4 April, 2008 at 8:38I will never forget when my daughter lost a game of Chutes and Ladders and declared, “F*CK”. She was three. Thank goodness her vocabulary has improved since then. I’m doubting that would fly in her Catholic school and all.
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Robina
Friday, 4 April, 2008 at 8:42Yea, that one’s a toughie. You handled it really well, though. All we can do is raise them right and hope they continue to act half-way decent when we aren’t around!
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LaskiGal
Friday, 4 April, 2008 at 11:02U just might want to consider drafting a cool guide to parenting . . .
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Turtle
Friday, 4 April, 2008 at 13:38Question for Mr. Lady – do you cuss when your kids aren’t around? Ever? Because I bet you do… Back when I was a parent dealing with young kids (they were 7 and 9 when the came to live with me, probably not much older than that for this memory) we realized that we cuss a lot. Our social circle cusses CONSTANTLY. I know a child who thought my brother’s name was “Uncle Nate Fuckhead” when he was two because, seriously, that’s what everyone called him. So we had lots of conversations about the appropriateness of cussing. Things like what you don’t say in front of your grandmother (or mother). Everything we talked about was how *we* adults did it – yes we cuss, and we cuss more around certain people, and we never ever ever cuss in front of their grandmother. There was one incident which required a minor intervention and also a couple times when cussing was overused in our vicious UNO games, but that’s it. They both grew up knowing how and when to cuss. Just like adults.
Funny side story: shortly after the first cussing conversation, Loyal got the kids to some class late and the door was locked. He said, “See? This is a time when saying “shit” is appropriate.”
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Ree
Friday, 4 April, 2008 at 18:47I had to stop telling Shortman to cut out the cuss words when I realized he was much more creative than me and I was copying his usage.
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Trish
Saturday, 5 April, 2008 at 17:56You handled it brilliantly – *sigh* but how do you do it when they are almost 15yrs, bigger and stronger than you and they don’t care anymore if they say it in front of you.
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Law Student Hot Mama
Saturday, 5 April, 2008 at 20:07It would have been badass if you’d said “Shut the hell up, fockers!” instead. Though necessarily hypocritical. But hell, it would have been worth it.
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TRACI
Sunday, 6 April, 2008 at 6:23Hey-hey you! You live next door to me or sumthin’? Your descrip of your deck and the unseen below camo’d by trees/woodland creatures and the such sounds eerily like my house…..do I know you?
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Laura
Tuesday, 8 April, 2008 at 7:24Super ‘Mom’ Hearing you must have! My son seems to think I am ‘all knowing and all seeing’, which of course I am. He gets into something I know he shouldn’t, I call out and he comes back, “Mom, how did you know?”
I just say, “Well, it’s magic.”
Great site and thanks for the laughs.
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